tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35828651.post7416890794736354687..comments2023-10-11T06:38:22.871-05:00Comments on The Rich House: Hypothetically SpeakingAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05796373392283640604noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35828651.post-36487669902345736942008-04-17T19:41:00.000-05:002008-04-17T19:41:00.000-05:00Mmmmm think that would end up being a no.Mmmmm think that would end up being a no.Charihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00148087840882038446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35828651.post-62314728407349368122008-04-12T11:17:00.000-05:002008-04-12T11:17:00.000-05:00@ SEXXY LUV....IM WIT YOU ON THIS ONE GIRLLLLL!!!!...@ SEXXY LUV....IM WIT YOU ON THIS ONE GIRLLLLL!!!!!<BR/><BR/>but i never been in that situation so i dont know what id do....but if i were to say yes...i would be so hurt and mad if it blew up and he/she got all the credit...FOR MY ISH..hell nah!!!! then how would i know if he/she wont ask me againThe Flyyesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06210411477689239417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35828651.post-20522846547609600392008-04-12T10:10:00.000-05:002008-04-12T10:10:00.000-05:00I had to think about this one. My gut says no, bu...I had to think about this one. My gut says no, but my knowledge of the work world knows that saying no to this chick could make me look wrong... Depending on who she is.<BR/><BR/>So... Considering the chick asked me, rather than artfully playing me into doing it by appealing to my own self interest successfully, clearly she is not the puppet master.<BR/><BR/>I'd gracefully outshine her to whomever the master is... I'd never even tell her, I'd make her come to me about it. The bait would be fear of me taking her position.<BR/><BR/>LaterAmber "Bam" Cabralhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07551253328546056069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35828651.post-48763731573767987142008-04-11T15:28:00.000-05:002008-04-11T15:28:00.000-05:00@ Cap city- Good advice about the paper trail. Yo...@ Cap city- Good advice about the paper trail. You must always cover your own back in corporate America- buddy or no buddy.<BR/><BR/>I for one am not big on profanity, but this situation deserves a big H No from me. I can't get past the last paragraph. I'm surprised that it was devulged up front that he would be taking credit for the work. Normally you would have found that out until he got promoted or was presenting your info in front of a large meeting of the staff. Also, he should be enlightened to the fact that you don't ask someone to give you a favor in advance. He should not have asked for a favor unless he was already owed a favor. I wish someone would ask me to pay them a favor in advance. When I think about it, I do favors in advance for people all of the time, but it's mostly when I offer to do the favor first. I have learned that there is no guarantee that he will ever pay you back the favor, and if he does pay back the favor I can almost guarantee you that his payback won't match the hard work/forethought put into the work that you would be presenting to him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35828651.post-55340943148513208972008-04-11T15:11:00.002-05:002008-04-11T15:11:00.002-05:00Dang, a brother can't keep up with you all and wor...Dang, a brother can't keep up with you all and work for a living. So here's a great big thank you for all the wonderful advice and comments from: <BR/><BR/>Lea78<BR/>Torrance<BR/>Craze<BR/>Brown Girl Gumbo<BR/>Pro (I need to holla at you about the non-profit thing)<BR/>Ms. Behaving<BR/>Jali House<BR/>Verbal Vixen<BR/>Anonymous Nupe<BR/>Sexy Luv<BR/>N. Steven<BR/>Antithesis <BR/><BR/>I'm glad everyone is enjoying the collaboration that we are doing, it will only get better.Rich Fitzgeraldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02402320643799892517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35828651.post-72295463521571613062008-04-11T15:11:00.000-05:002008-04-11T15:11:00.000-05:00@ Don: I gained further respect from my peers who ...@ Don: I gained further respect from my peers who knew the TRUTH. I also gained peace from God knowing that vengeance was not mine and what I started was not in vain. My work, organization and efforts STILL remain to this day. It matters not how women CONTINUE to come together because of people like ME, and I gained confidence in knowing that I can -and will- do it again. Fast forward. The woman who stole credit came to me, thanked me for not 'outing' her and said she had mad love and respect for me. I countered with a connect and some contacts for her family's relocation to the 'A' and how she could become affiliated with a local chapter/affiliation in the area.<BR/><BR/>Just for shits & giggles, I gained an unpolluted colon because this vegetarian don't 'beef'...proacTiffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17971869524851167068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35828651.post-85246863066039750862008-04-11T14:53:00.000-05:002008-04-11T14:53:00.000-05:00i hope i am never in that situation. morally, i wo...i hope i am never in that situation. morally, i would simply say that i felt it was unethical and i was not willing to compromise my integrity.antithesishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01820416263805868128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35828651.post-48853368462449627472008-04-11T14:27:00.000-05:002008-04-11T14:27:00.000-05:00Sorry. I am not the one. I wish some slickster wou...Sorry. I am not the one. I wish some slickster would try to come to me, asking me to do his/her work FOR THEM TO CLAIM AS THEIR OWN.<BR/><BR/>Puh-leeze. I know that it may have some kind of help for me in the company (or so he/she says), but I also believe that this ish would come around and leave a big ol' bite mark on someone booty.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05030879572798690343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35828651.post-49310504767418740472008-04-11T14:18:00.000-05:002008-04-11T14:18:00.000-05:00Hell 2 tha nawl,would be my only answer!He/She wou...Hell 2 tha nawl,would be my only answer!<BR/><BR/>He/She would experience when keepin' it real goes wrong!Sexxy Luvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14570801991117260817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35828651.post-11722044969513634212008-04-11T13:45:00.001-05:002008-04-11T13:45:00.001-05:00Unless I was just obtuse in my reading, you never ...Unless I was just obtuse in my reading, you never stated that the exec is black. I guess it is implied by the fact that lunch was at the soul food spot and by him stating "as the sole minority on the panel...." But neither of those tidbits mean that he is black, actually. Not that that necessarily matters in everyone's mind, but I would just have found it that much more egregious a deed if dude is a brother. <BR/><BR/>On another note, knowing me and my distrust of people, execs, and black people in high places, I would have probably been taping the conversation the entire time. Not sure to what end. Maybe simply as an arrow in my quiver should he attempt some form of corporate retribution against me after I refused his offer.anonymousnupehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15452150857948004054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35828651.post-25309765103697782342008-04-11T13:45:00.000-05:002008-04-11T13:45:00.000-05:00@ verbal vixen: I would give HIM until the end of ...@ verbal vixen: <B>I would give <I>HIM</I> until the end of the week to let me know if he is willing to play ball.</B><BR/><BR/>LOL.<BR/><BR/>I like your style. I swear to God I do.Donhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02904024507867487521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35828651.post-33216939876456696802008-04-11T13:43:00.001-05:002008-04-11T13:43:00.001-05:00@ pro: what do you feel that was gained by you tak...@ pro: what do you feel that was gained by you taking the high road in your situation.<BR/><BR/>note: not to necessarily say that you were <I>looking</I> to gain anything from taking that route.Donhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02904024507867487521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35828651.post-59479926183195509692008-04-11T13:43:00.000-05:002008-04-11T13:43:00.000-05:00I don't like handing my spotlight to anyone else, ...I don't like handing my spotlight to anyone else, but I don't like burning bridges unless I absolutely have to.<BR/><BR/>I would let Mr. Executive know straight up that I would be interested in helping them with this project, but that I am in no way comfortable with not getting any credit for it. I would let Mr. Executive know that I am a team player, and remind him how much the company "values teamwork and cooperation". I would tell him that I don't need a week to consider - that I will gladly create the report and allow him to present it, so long as my name is clearly on the byline. <BR/><BR/>I would give HIM until the end of the week to let me know if he is willing to play ball.<BR/><BR/>If I am talented and a hard-worker - my abilities will shine with or without this dude's help.Tatiana Caldwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01523950946587873294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35828651.post-51208029321903027062008-04-11T12:35:00.000-05:002008-04-11T12:35:00.000-05:00I'd like to know why this person is unable to do i...I'd like to know why this person is unable to do it themself. Sounds like a test. (is he discreet, is he a team player, can he work behind the scenes)<BR/><BR/>I agree with cap that if you do decide to do it, you confirm via company email.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35828651.post-87535904758175239542008-04-11T11:48:00.000-05:002008-04-11T11:48:00.000-05:00I would decline [respectfully of course].I think i...I would decline [<I>respectfully of course</I>].<BR/><BR/>I think it would be too hard for me to sit back and watch someone else take credit for my work.<BR/><BR/>Besides opening the door for one "proposition" is likely to lead to opening the door to a lifetime of em'.<BR/><BR/>Nobody needs that kind of pressure hangin' over their head...Miss Snarky Pantshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11029762400845095202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35828651.post-65048242777702411402008-04-11T10:41:00.001-05:002008-04-11T10:41:00.001-05:00ITA with SoG... @ SoG, your sagaciousness ALMOST m...ITA with SoG... @ SoG, your sagaciousness ALMOST made me say, "Yes! Daddy!" <- And you know how I don't get down with the term. LMAO. You rock in alotta ways, my fren...<BR/><BR/>Rich, this was thought-provoking. I don't readily burn bridges, nor do I like to make waves. I would have come up with a way to receive creative credit for my efforts. I started a nonprofit org some years ago and presided over it for the first couple years. After I knew my season was changing, I found another to fill my shoes. However, I still shared new ideas, always marketed the great things going on with the org., etc. I ended up getting burned and played. When it came time for the org's limelight and media recognition the newest president took ALL the credit for the organization's success. Even though I had the mind to contact the news about their misprint of information etc. because I had all of the 501c3's and everything pertaining to the start-up of the organization, me as its founder and the grueling executive board selection process, etc. I took the high road. I still have the article as a reminder of my personal accomplishment(s) and back-biting at its best. This hypothetical brought back a memory. *TGIF*proacTiffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17971869524851167068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35828651.post-26675740277010311432008-04-11T10:41:00.000-05:002008-04-11T10:41:00.000-05:00There's NO WAY I could do it! I'm a person who rar...There's NO WAY I could do it! I'm a person who rarely gets credit for my contributions at work, so to allow someone to blatantly shine as a result of my ideas, concepts, etc. is something that would make me sick inside. I COULD NEVER DO IT!Brown Girl Gumbohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11689638268372975916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35828651.post-37960442499864267232008-04-11T10:19:00.000-05:002008-04-11T10:19:00.000-05:00Hell no!Hell no!MEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04121865529773663081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35828651.post-57770886674898990452008-04-11T10:08:00.000-05:002008-04-11T10:08:00.000-05:00I would only offer to do what i belived in the sco...I would only offer to do what i belived in the scope of my job description. I have beenasked to write grants that were not in my field of interest so i declined. likely in this case too.All-Mi-T [Thought Crime] Rawdawgbuffalohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08843040863123899426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35828651.post-27781646759927584732008-04-11T09:54:00.000-05:002008-04-11T09:54:00.000-05:00@jaded -- great advice. I'd love to see some of y...@jaded -- great advice. I'd love to see some of your work. where can I find it?Rich Fitzgeraldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02402320643799892517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35828651.post-76025571676318836352008-04-11T09:53:00.000-05:002008-04-11T09:53:00.000-05:00@sojourner -- wise indeed. that is some great for...@sojourner -- wise indeed. that is some great forward thinking. I think oftentimes we feel like these types of moments push us on our heels and we only see limited options, neither of which seems favorable, but finding the win-win is the real gem in this scenario.Rich Fitzgeraldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02402320643799892517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35828651.post-11809547735653506572008-04-11T09:41:00.000-05:002008-04-11T09:41:00.000-05:00@ sojourner G: man, how wise are you. it never cro...@ sojourner G: man, how wise are you. it never crossed my mind to think about asking collaborating in a way that would benefit the both. i guess i tend to believe people have their minds made up. good advice.<BR/><BR/>@ sheila: that's what i felt. if they ask once - and its underminded as a favor, chances are, they will be back asking for another favor. then it becomes a matter of being stuck because who wants their hard work to end in vain?Donhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02904024507867487521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35828651.post-49395704358445960622008-04-11T09:39:00.000-05:002008-04-11T09:39:00.000-05:00this is a tricky situation, on one hand of course ...this is a tricky situation, on one hand of course you would want to say no, b/c letting someone use your voice Cyrano style is something that a lot of writers won't do, but on the other, if you don't the executive can make your work life a living hell for saying no. God I would pray and pray real hard about a situation like this. I may have to look for a new job.lea78https://www.blogger.com/profile/15776002313104505745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35828651.post-31103970283085714482008-04-11T09:38:00.000-05:002008-04-11T09:38:00.000-05:00I'm already a ghostwriter- there are no "Jaded NYe...I'm already a ghostwriter- there are no "Jaded NYer" by-lines in the three trillion articles and OP-EDs I've written in the year and a half that I've worked at my job.<BR/><BR/>However, I'm fully able to claim the work as my own. There are weekly status reports and client emails, etc to verify, so I don't feel like I'm not credited.<BR/><BR/>The situation you presented, however, is straight cheating! It's writing someone's term paper for them, letting them copy off your homework and letting them sit next to you during the mid-term.<BR/><BR/>I'd politely decline, but offer my assistance in a research capacity which would include credit for my work. If they didn't like that option, then, oh well, too bad so sad!The Jaded NYerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12984061987021416142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35828651.post-87844661854005486002008-04-11T09:33:00.000-05:002008-04-11T09:33:00.000-05:00I would give the "executive" a very well spoken ta...I would give the "executive" a very well spoken tactful discourse about my thoughts and beliefs regarding integrity and truth. I would let him/her know that I understand there is a game to be played and even how to play it, but that I would rather play by rules I feel are just and right.<BR/><BR/>Then I'd counter propose him/her. I'd encourage him/her to collaborate with me on the best way to put forth both our thoughts and open the door to his mind about the possibility of introducing a new and talented resource. This way he/she get's credit for the work AND an eye for talent. I'd sell ALL the features and benefits of this idea.<BR/><BR/>Barring acceptance, I'd do all I could to preserve the relationship and see if there are ways other than what has been asked to provide a measure of assistance and the continuation of dialogue. It would not be necessary to get indignant, burn bridges or create enemies.<BR/><BR/>[two cents]Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com